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Post by iris on Feb 4, 2012 9:23:28 GMT -5
My dear Su, I will gladly share my southern comfort food knowledge. They will NOT, however, be kosher. ;D
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Post by Nora on Feb 4, 2012 9:43:16 GMT -5
I cant wait to try authentic Southern food.
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Post by Suluby on Feb 4, 2012 14:43:18 GMT -5
My dear Su, I will gladly share my southern comfort food knowledge. They will NOT, however, be kosher. ;D
That's not a problem for me, dear friend! 
Some of the best recipes I have needed just a bit of tweaking and some substitutions to become kosher recipes.
I'm up for experimenting ..... so post what you've got!! If anything turns out bad - I'll just blame YOU!!! 
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Post by iqof37 on Feb 4, 2012 22:00:10 GMT -5
Hnmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, I am drinking Southern Comfort right now.
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Post by kjc on Feb 4, 2012 22:10:17 GMT -5
Suluby: Hey, I think you asked me for a Chiken Al-La-King recipie once, did you ever get it, I posted it.
Was on a foodie thread DYB board.
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Post by kjc on Feb 4, 2012 22:14:10 GMT -5
Re: Kosher, other than the obvious, pork, shell fish others, you can get almost all other ingredients in Kosher form. Look for the K, Pareve, or I think it is a U in a circle, on the ingredients lable.
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Post by Suluby on Feb 4, 2012 22:23:35 GMT -5
Suluby: Hey, I think you asked me for a Chiken Al-La-King recipie once, did you ever get it, I posted it. Was on a foodie thread DYB board.
I sure hope I remembered to thank you ..... although I guess I didn't. Sorry about that but better late than never! Thanks, Kj!!
And why don't you start a thread with that recipe??? Please.
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Post by Suluby on Feb 4, 2012 22:37:49 GMT -5
Re: Kosher, other than the obvious, pork, shell fish others, you can get almost all other ingredients in Kosher form. Look for the K, Pareve, or I think it is a U in a circle, on the ingredients lable.
There are lots of symbols that signify an item is kosher, depending on the part of the country you live in.
One of the most common all over the country is the OU (it's a small u in a circle). That is granted by the Orthodox Union. Most people never notice those marks, and have no idea what they mean ..... but I look for them. It's usually placed in the front of a package, somewhere around the name or on the bottom to the left or the right.
There are a skillion-bajillion products in every grocery store that are certified kosher ..... and I'd bet that most people have no idea that they are!
Parve or pareve is something different. We can't mix meat with milk, so when an item is certified and labeled 'pareve' it means it is neutral - that it contains neither meat derivatives or milk derivatives, and can be used with either.
Pasta is a pareve product, and can be served with a meat meal or a dairy meal.
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Post by Country boy on Feb 5, 2012 7:58:37 GMT -5
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Post by Suluby on Feb 5, 2012 8:01:16 GMT -5
Eggs bacon and fried taters sure sounds good right now
Hmmm Does sound good!
Warm up the skillets ..... I'm on the way to your house!!!
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Post by Country boy on Feb 5, 2012 8:23:23 GMT -5
Yes Ma'am
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Post by Suluby on Feb 5, 2012 8:29:52 GMT -5
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Post by kjc on Feb 6, 2012 13:31:37 GMT -5
Su responded:
One of the most common all over the country is the OU (it's a small u in a circle). That is granted by the Orthodox Union. Most people never notice those marks, and have no idea what they mean ..... but I look for them. It's usually placed in the front of a package, somewhere around the name or on the bottom to the left or the right.
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KJ: I had learned of the common Kosher markings in some of my Food Science classes, Slaughtering classes at Penn State. My degree was in Ag. Ed., had to be prepared to teach anything, anywhere, so had to know this kind of stuff.
I also learned how to do Kosher slaughtering, meat preperation. Very specific procedures and a Rabbi had to be in attendance for a blessing of the meat.
I will post an Al-La-King recipie thread latter today or tommorrow.
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Post by Suluby on Feb 6, 2012 13:58:59 GMT -5
Su responded: One of the most common all over the country is the OU (it's a small u in a circle). That is granted by the Orthodox Union. Most people never notice those marks, and have no idea what they mean ..... but I look for them. It's usually placed in the front of a package, somewhere around the name or on the bottom to the left or the right. >>>>> KJ: I had learned of the common Kosher markings in some of my Food Science classes, Slaughtering classes at Penn State. My degree was in Ag. Ed., had to be prepared to teach anything, anywhere, so had to know this kind of stuff. I also learned how to do Kosher slaughtering, meat preperation. Very specific procedures and a Rabbi had to be in attendance for a blessing of the meat. I will post an Al-La-King recipie thread latter today or tommorrow.
Can't wait for the recipe, Kj!
With rabbinic supervision, it isn't a blessing that is said .... but close supervision to assure that all the relevant regulations are followed properly. There is a maschgiach (a ritually trained and knowledgeable supervisor) in the kitchen of every kosher restaurant and in every factory that produces items to be certified kosher. It is their job to make sure that all the ingredients in any product are kosher, to make sure that milk and meat products are not being produced at the same time, and much much more.
People sometimes have the mistaken idea that the rabbi waves his hands over something and says a prayer and *POOF* the item is now kosher. But that's just not true. It takes scientific knowledge of all the possible ingredients .... and they also have to know who certified the ingredients as kosher. Preparation of the manufacture of the item, packaging ..... all are closely supervised by maschgiachim.
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Post by Troy on Feb 6, 2012 15:23:42 GMT -5
I use Kosher salt in many of my herbs and spice blends that I sell. Am I certifiable?
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Post by Troy on Feb 6, 2012 15:27:17 GMT -5
Seriously though, I recently spoke with a woman who follows a very strict Hindu diet.
Her rules make Jewish food law look lax in comaprison.
But tell me Su.
Are there any "Kosher Laws" (not sure the term to use to describe this set of laws, ) regarding herbs and spices and when and how they can be combined or used?
This is something I have never really considered. I know that one of the markets I go to sits right on the edge of a large Jewish Community, but I have never asked my customers if they were Jewish so I dont know if I am selling anything they can buy or not.
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Post by Suluby on Feb 6, 2012 17:48:17 GMT -5
Seriously though, I recently spoke with a woman who follows a very strict Hindu diet.
Her rules make Jewish food law look lax in comaprison.
But tell me Su.
Are there any "Kosher Laws" (not sure the term to use to describe this set of laws, ) regarding herbs and spices and when and how they can be combined or used?
This is something I have never really considered. I know that one of the markets I go to sits right on the edge of a large Jewish Community, but I have never asked my customers if they were Jewish so I dont know if I am selling anything they can buy or not.
And vegetables, plant products are considered pareve - neutral. They are neither meat or dairy until you do something to or with them.
It depends on what you have done to them after harvesting and drying. If you've used any utensils that could have been in contact with meat products or dairy products then the herbs & spices would not be kosher, because the meat they were in contact with wouldn't have been kosher. But if you use implements and surfaces that never come into contact with anything but the plants ..... you'd be okay for all but the most extreme of the ultra-orthodox Jews.
That was an interesting question, Troy.
Now, if any potential customer asks if the products are kosher, you'll have an answer for them!
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Post by kjc on Feb 6, 2012 19:00:25 GMT -5
Su wrote:
With rabbinic supervision, it isn't a blessing that is said .... but close supervision to assure that all the relevant regulations are followed properly. There is a maschgiach (a ritually trained and knowledgeable supervisor) in the kitchen of every kosher restaurant and in every factory that produces items to be certified kosher. It is their job to make sure that all the ingredients in any product are kosher, to make sure that milk and meat products are not being produced at the same time, and much much more.
People sometimes have the mistaken idea that the rabbi waves his hands over something and says a prayer and *POOF* the item is now kosher. But that's just not true. It takes scientific knowledge of all the possible ingredients .... and they also have to know who certified the ingredients as kosher. Preparation of the manufacture of the item, packaging ..... all are closely supervised by maschgiachim.
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KJ; You are correct on that, supervision more than a blessing. Though we did have a Rabbi who said a pray in Hebrew after the slaughter of a cow, oy , maybe it was for his mother in law, lol. If I remember correctly is was for a high holiday, been so long though, I may be wrong.
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